Amiga tunes converted: aweful

sw2001 · Joined: 10 Apr 2024 Posts: 25 Location: Canada

I just converted turrican 2 from .mdat .smpl with DP2 to .wav format.
The result: not even close to the original.
my question: why pay for that DP crap, use winuae, and you have at least a reasenable result.
to the deliplayer developers or what ever: keep your crap.

Alexander · Joined: 13 Dec 2024 Posts: 100 Location: Germany

You know that the Amiga soundchips are very special, their filters etc.? It requires a certain intelligence to configure the program propperly so that Amiga sounds "as it should". Obviously, you are lacking this intelligence. Thats not a problem, on the contrary - it never ceases to amuse me how people go out into the public and tell everyone they don't have clue.

sw2001 · Joined: 10 Apr 2024 Posts: 25 Location: Canada

I'm aware of that you can't get the music 1:1 converted. But the music with that player sounded like music from a tin can. I reinstalled DP2 and now it's back to normal again and I'm happy with the result, even it's not 100% Amiga sound. Don't know why the player get messed up once in a while, but I can live with that - maybe the next version of DP will fix some minor bugs

rockfistus · Joined: 09 Oct 2024 Posts: 3

Oi! Didn't see the "Keep your crap!"

Deliplayer is awesome....not crap! Definitely not crap!

JOn · Joined: 09 Dec 2024 Posts: 68 Location: Scotland

Its tricky to keep calm at times. dp2 really is more of a sound tool than a simple media player.

It can take time to learn about configurations...... but, lets face it. If deliplayer cant get it right then who can ?
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sw2001 · Joined: 10 Apr 2024 Posts: 25 Location: Canada

wilson · Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2024 12:43 pm Post subject:

...but it's a descendant of Deli-"TRACKER"...
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sw2001 · Joined: 10 Apr 2024 Posts: 25 Location: Canada

... and of course everybody should know that

Alexander · Joined: 13 Dec 2024 Posts: 100 Location: Germany

Nobody can and will know everything right from the start. Thats no problem. Coming here with a short and unqualified rant is a problem (at least for me, but it seems we got that sorted already *g*).

Deliplayer offers options that can enhance the output of low quality samples and sounds. Amiga is only 8bit, and the samples have 22kHz sample rate at best, often less, because they are sampled to a certain key so that they are in tune). Some sounds and modules lose their distinctive sound when they are enhanced by Deliplayers routines (ringing artifacts, aliasing may sound familiar and desired, but in reality they should not be there, quality-wise - if Deli smoothens these sounds, they lose a part of their "Amiga-ish" character. This has been discussed before, and the various different types of Deli's output options should address these "problems".

Besides that, there was a beta version of DP2 that had the stereo image screwed up, I can't remember if it was public or only private for us beta testers, but the sound was really very tinny, because the low frequencies (especially on a subwoofer) were almost completely removed by this bug (if you invert the stereo signal on one channel, it will cancel a similar signal if mixed together to mono, like in a subwoofer).

wilson · Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2024 3:10 pm Post subject:

Well said. If the stereo issue was in a public release, it must have been ages, because I can't remember it...
While on the subject, when breaking in new speakers people often put them close together front-to-front and reverse the polarity on one speaker. This way they can (theoretically) push them harder (and thus break in the speakers more quickly) without getting problems with cranky neighbours... So really, it wasn't a bug, just a special release for people with a new sound setup.
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psychophanta · Joined: 03 Jan 2024 Posts: 35